In need a good laptop for gameing and general use no lenovo or dell?

If it is no Lenovo or Dell, as I answered this before including Lenovo, you also mean no HP or Acer or Toshiba or Compaq. Lenovo Ideapads are mid-class.
http://www.rescuecom.com/...14-q2.aspx
Since Sony and Samsung have left this arena of laptops at this level, you only can get a custom or semi-custom or Asus or MSI.
You will have to seek reviews of Cube, that is the store brand of Saveon laptops and does get some good reviews as their price is low to their specs.
There are some MSI's at GTX 850M graphics available now.
Some of the MSI say NON Backlit KB
This MSI:
http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16GF11-417-MSI-GE60-2PC(Apache)-417UK_1682500.html
Or this better Asus is not in stock yet:
http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/G551JM-DM197H-ASUS-G551JM-DM197H_1685260.html
It is shown at other sites at a little lower price, but also pending delivery as end of November.
17.3" version meets your price and appears available
http://www.asuslaptop.co.uk/Asus_G750JM-T4099H_Laptop
looks like the lowest online price for it.
It does have a backlit KB according to other sites.

I have a toshiba satellite that costed me roughly 800 dollars and it is great for gaming. Runnong 4 cores at 2.3 ghz and 8gb of memory. I have played rift wow witcher 2 and diablo 3 with great results. Only issue I've had is overheating which is easily solved with a cooling pad. I would only buy toshiba or samsung.

Look into a asus ;laptop some are nicely price asus.com